Oct 16, 2005

Faces Of Hate

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NSM's Bill WhiteLeft: NSM's Bill White leads his band of merry Nazis in a chant of "Sieg Heil"

The arrival of neo-Nazis on the west side of Stickney about 10:30 AM on Saturday served as a catalyst for future unrest. Almost immediately the group began to taunt the crowd with racial epithets.

NSM's Mark Martin taunts crowdLeft: Mark Martin, an NSM operative from Dayton, tells the crowd that they are escaped apes from the zoo

Perhaps the most ominous moments came when über-racist Mark Martin began a series of hystrionic monologues that served no purpose other than agitation of the crowd, much to the delight of the smirking NSM members.

Left: NSM members line up prior to the rally

The Toledo Police successfully kept the crowd in check while the rhetoric grew ever more strident. By 11:35, however, objects began to be tossed toward the visiting Nazis.
NSM members in ToledoLeft: Nazis beat a hasty retreat from tossed bottles and rocks

Within minutes, Toledo Police chief Mike Navarre ordered Bill White and his followers out of Toledo. The angry crowd, though they did not know it, had successfully prevented the Nazi march, but the collective anger would soon turn inward.

The photos on this series covering the aborted NSM rally in Toledo were taken by DC photographer Isis, copyright 2005 Isis. You can see more of her work at Yellowcakewalk.net


17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nazis can kiss my ass

Anonymous said...

Now the neo-com spin begins, I see.

The Nazis won this round in a big way despite the march being cancelled. We don't care if the march never happened because we showed Toleda and the world what kind of people you neo-communists are. As Chief Navarre told the press on Friday, "they (the SPLC, OPP, ISO) are just as much of a hate group" as the neo-Nazis.

We Nazis are not a hate group, that's just propaganda. However, you guys really showed the world who the real haters are.

historymike said...

Oh, so I am a "neo-com."

I was wondering how long it would be before the Nazis pegged me in some derogatory fashion.

The best part of the Nazi spin? Their claim to 140 supporters.

I counted 26 people, in total, in support of the Nazis.

There were about 700 in opposition, not counting the people at the "Erase the Hate" counter rally.

Any group that will utter ignorant, inflammatory bullshit like "The Toledo Zoo called - they want their apes back!" cannot claim that "We Nazis are not a hate group."

Anonymous said...

Hmmm... and I suppose the consistent calling of the NSM the "National Socialist Bowel Movement" is not "hate speech?" I'm sure you don't think it is. On the other hand, even the slightest remark that could possibly be construed (or misconstrued) to be an offence to any ethic group, except whites of course, is hate speech.

As for the twenty-six people you counted, when did you get close enough to count? As well, didn't you know that the police were keeping a whole lot of our supporters from joining the rally?

Even if it were true that only twenty-six supporters came out, my God, what an accomplishment. They showed Toledo the true face of the black gangs and exposed the neo-com complicity in and support of it! Not bad for just twenty-six people.

I can hardly wait for the neo-com press releases pledging solidarity with the gangs of North Toledo. "We completely support our black comrades and the death threats they delivered to the whites in their community." Icing on the cake.

It is to laugh.

No, I' not Bill White.

historymike said...

I have a press pass, sir. I was close enough to talk to Mr. White and his minions.

The photos on this site were taken by me and my partner-in-truth, a DC photographer named Isis.

As far as counting, I did it with my fingers. There were not enough Nazis for me to have to use my toes.

But I suppose you will counter that I somehow "doctored: the photos, or that I am also a part of the Jewish media conspiracy?

I am unfamiliar with the term "National Socialist Bowel Movement," but it did not come from my pen. Perhaps your delusional mind has convinced you that I wrote it, but I have been more than cautious in my rhetoric.

Unlike the followers of Bill White and NSM.

Hooda Thunkit said...

"No, I' not Bill White."

Okay Bill, you're NOT Bill White. Do you mind if I call you Billie Whitie then?

Thanks ;-)

"As well, didn't you know that the police were keeping a whole lot of our supporters from joining the rally?"

Those MUST have been your imaginary friend contingent and your sock puppet auxiliary.

To use your very own words:

It is to laugh...

Hooda Thunkit said...

Hey Bill,

I just looked at the picture of you again, the one of you in profile.

I noticed that you have just a bit of a slope in your forehead.

That's a bit unusual for an Arian Supremacist isn't it...???

You be passin boy?

That might explain your zeal…

Actually, that explains a lot...

Anonymous said...

How many fingers do you have? "I counted 26 people, in total, in support of the Nazis." Or are you now revising that number downward into the range of the number of fingers most people have?

As for the "National Socialist Bowel Movement" remark, I didn't say you made it, but other neo-comms have, such as can be found on the "One People's Project." website.

As for you being a member of the jewish media conspiracy, that is a question I didn't ask, so let me do so now. Are you?

historymike said...

You, sir, are delusional.

My comment about the fingers is that I would be able to count them and start over, keeping track in my head.

Obviously, for you, that must be a challenge.

As for the Jewish media conspiracy, I just assumed that you would reach into your tiny bag of rhetorical tricks and pull that one out.

I don't personally know anyone of Jewish heritage in the publications for which I write, but I am sure they are terrific people.

Sorry your worldview is so narrow that you only like to hang with boys who wear shiny boots.

Anonymous said...

Historymike said...
>
> My comment about the
> fingers is that I would be
> able to count them and start
> over, keeping track in my
> head.
>
> Obviously, for you, that
> must be a challenge.
>

Yeah, I d'em gots me a university educashun.

> As for the Jewish media
> conspiracy, I just assumed
> that you would reach into your
> tiny bag of rhetorical tricks
> and pull that one out.

Ahh, a rhetorical trick of your own ... presuming to know the mind of the opponent and then playing to that presumption. That trick usually backfires in real debates.

> I don't personally know
> anyone of Jewish heritage in
> the publications for which I
> write, but I am sure they are
> terrific people.

Why would you presume that these jews, whom you admit you do not know, are terrific people? At best you should play it safe and withold judgment, whether they be jew or anybody else. Why would you give jews special treatment. Are you a philosemite?

All I can say in response to you is simply this ... watch your back. I too used to think similarily about jews a long time ago. I learned the hard way that no jew can be trusted, period. That remark is not a prejudice, but the result of very painful experience.


> Sorry your worldview is so
> narrow that you only like to
> hang with boys who wear shiny
> boots.
>

Well, I doubt you know what my world view is, or even that of National Socialism for that matter. I'm sure you know what anti-Nazi propaganda says it si though.

But the boots, yes they are spiffy aren't they? And the whole SS/SA uniform ensemble, absolutely to die for (and some did). Designed by gay Nazis in the 1930's you know. Too bad the NSM doesn't wear them.

Anonymous said...

When Mike says that the Jews who work in those publications he writes for are wonderful people, it must mean that he is being watched. So he better say nice things about them, or else no more work. ;-)

historymike said...

Interesting to watch how Der Spinmeister twists words.

Flame on, brother.

bp said...

Sorry to see you caught yourself a particularly bad troll. Good work here. I hate to have to wait for the Free Press to publish to find out what you saw, but I trust the wait is worth it.

liberal_dem said...

I posted to Frank's blog a similar message:

My wife and I watched C-Span2 last evening and we were enriched so greatly by the words of Jonathan Kozol, the author of many books on public education. His latest book, Shame of the Nation shapes inner-city schools as our own American Apartheid system, essentially dismissing the integration efforts of the past 30 years.

His voice was full of passion and love for the black students of the large urban school districts who are essentially segregated into all-black schools, taught by new and inexperienced teachers, in WWII era buildings, often with ancient curricula, reminiscent of the age of their buildings.

As I was listening to him my mind wandered to the events of Saturday in the North end area. The realization was clear: Mr. Kozol was speaking of the children and adolescents who I saw at the anti-Nazi rally. These were the victims of educational neglect along with economic neglect.

And then the Nazis arrived, driving their cars from the rich suburbs of Roanoke to this neighborhood. These white and oh-so privileged out-of-state adults had no clue, absolutely no idea of the difficulties of growing up in neighborhoods like this one, targeted for their propaganda.

No doubt, these imported Nazis attend Christian churches, much like the KKK bigots: lynchings on Saturday, church hymns on Sunday. In fact, a phrase I clearly recall from Mr. Kozol's talk was: 'Although I am a Jew, I often find myself preaching in Christian churches. And I often quote the words of Jesus which they do not want to hear.'

So there we have it: Two 'talks' in two days. One from a hate-filled group of angry white Christians another from a meek yet passionate Jewish teacher.

I'll take the advice and wisdom of the latter anytime over the babble and buffoonery of the former.

Bill White said...

First, we were out there starting at 9:30 AM.

Second, I don't know if anyone taunted the crowd with racial epithets -- though Mark Martin probably did.

However, the crowd was such a bunch of pathetic scumbag wimps that I think they deserved some righteous tauntings.

Anonymous said...

Wow, in the first picture, Bill White looks like Karl Rove with a dye-job!

NSM == pawn of the neo-cons? :-P

Depressed Persian said...

Actually, liberal dem, there are probably more non-Christian, even anti-Christian, NSM members than anything else.

Bill's a slumlord from Roanoke -- no slums in the suburbs.

So far as I know he was the only one from Roanoke who was there.

From research and personal experience I can tell you something about the membership of all "extremist" groups whose central idea is based on a common racial, ethnic or religious identity.

The leadership tends to be well-educated (not necessarily meaning that they have graduate degrees or anything, but self-educated and intelligent) and the rank and file tend to belong to the lumpenproletariat who see no hope and no future under the current system.

This is true for the NSM, for the New Black Panther Party, and even for the JDL, whose original membership consisted of working class Jews in inner-city neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the Bronx who simply could not afford to move to Long Island once the demographics of their neighborhoods began to change. (Read Robert I. Friedman's excellent book on Kahane and the JDL, "The False Prophet." Out of print now but well worth searching for)