Dec 27, 2005

2005 - "Year Of The Racist Right?"

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Left: NSM members at the October 15 rally; photo by historymike

There has been a visible resurgence this year in the number of racist groups making a bid for power, and I believe that this portends a disturbing trend in American politics. 2005 may become known, among other things, as the “Year of the Racist Right.”

One of the most active groups has been the National Socialist Movement (NSM), which has staged rallies in Yorktown, VA as well as two in Toledo, OH. The first Toledo rally, which was cancelled when police began to lose control of the crowd, resulted in a four-hour riot. The second rally, on December 10, saw a force of 700 officers from local, state, and federal police agencies crack down on protesters; nearly three dozen anti-racist activists were arrested.

The racist right often finds a local disturbance as a means of invading an area. A November 19 rally in Kingston, NY was called by Internet white power podcaster Hal Turner after a black teen assaulted a white teen at the local high school. The first Toledo NSM rally has its origins in a dispute between two neighbors over garbage and graffiti.

Turner’s show has repeatedly advertised an imaginary product called the “Portable Nigger Lyncher.” Here is the text of the parody ad that Turner ran:

“Does the community where you live tend to be getting darker and darker? Are you looking for an evening of entertainment with your friends and family? Well, folks, this is the answer to your prayers. The one and only PNL — Portable Nigger Lyncher. Complete with two ropes and custom hand-tied nooses.”


2005 was also the year that the Minuteman Project was launched, and many people fear that the “Internal Vigilance Operations” and “Civil Defense Corps” will degenerate into vigilante forces of racists and neo-Nazis.

On December 15 US House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) introduced anti-immigrant legislation that would categorize as felons the entire undocumented population; this figure also includes 1.6 million children. The House Judiciary Committee is also debating the efficacy of constructing a border fence in parts of Texas, California, Arizona, and New Mexico to stem the flow of migrant laborers.

One of the ironies of the white supremacist movement is that its extremist members make “traditional” conservatives seem more palatable. More than a few pundits have suggested that money links exist between mainstream conservative groups and the racist extremists; at any rate, the growth of the racist right certainly cannot hurt the GOP.

Finally, as a historian I am always drawn to parallels between the present and the past. Today’s growing white power movement has eerie similarities with the growth of Hitler’s Sturmabteilung (SA), and the fears of terrorism among Americans make the possibility of a domestic vigilante force seem all the more plausible.

This essay also appears on the Clamor magazine website.

74 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wah wah wah

All you Jews do is cry.

Anonymous said...

And the Nigger Lovers cry too.

historymike said...

Thanks for reminding me why I turned off the anonymous comments, idiots.

Anonymous said...

Does the truth really hurt that bad, Mike?

historymike said...

What "truth" would that be, Steve Holsten?

(anonymous #3 hails from Kennett, Missouri)

Anonymous said...

historymike - Technically, the entire undocumented population are felons, since they broke our laws to get into our country. If someone broke into your house, wouldn't you consider him a felon? Mass immigration, along with affirmative action and the double standard (where white people who speak out on racial issues are judged by a higher and harsher standard than minority spokespeople), are the main issues fueling the White Nationalist movement. I'm part of the Vanguard News Network because of people like you, who want white people to sacrifice jobs and other perks they've meritoriously earned in the name of so-called "equality". The civil rights movement was intended to allow minorities the opportunity to rise to OUR level, not to level the playing field by forcing us down to THEIR level. Haven't you wondered why, demographically, whites are always fleeing from blacks rather than the other way around? Haven't you wondered why our increasingly "darkening" cities are surrounded by increasingly "whitening" suburbs? If diversity is so "natural", explain this phenomena. Why not engage in honest dialog with us to identify constructive solutions rather than constantly denigrate us as "evil, wicked, mean and nasty racists"?

historymike said...

Anonymous #4 joins us from Anchorage, Alaska according to the IP address.

1. Undocumented aliens committed an "illegal" act, not necessarily a "felonious" one. The new legislation maskes this a felony.

2. The analogy between B&E and illegal immigration is a false one. Illegal immigrants come here looking for work that, in the main, Americans will not take. Burglars seek to steal my possessions.

3. I have no problem with honest dialogue about immigration and civil rights. I do have a problem with genocide, forced emigration, or ignorant theories of racial hierarchy.

4. I am white, and I do not "flee from blacks." Nor do my neighbors.

5. While I genreally eschew terms like "wicked, mean and nasty" to describe racists, I have on occasion used the word "evil." Of course, considering that the racist right tags me with terms like "scum," "loser," "traitor," and so forth, I hardly think that your side can make a claim to the high moral ground. In fact, I notice that the VNN page that referred you calls me a "whiny Jew faggot" and "Faggot Jew scum:"

VNN forum

Anonymous said...

The distinction between an illegal act and a felonious act is semantical. Illegal immigrants steal jobs and benefits that are legally unavailable to them. This increases our tax burden. Regardless of the motivation, it is still stealing. You also remarked about "ignorant" theories. Are they "ignorant" because they're flawed, or sinply because you disagree with them. Can you dispute the objective, empirical evidence showing that blacks, percentage-wise, commit more crime than whites? Can you dispute the objective, empirical evidence showing that Jews tend to dominate the national media, which influences so many people? You also remark that you and your neighbors live, apparently peacefully, amongst non-whites. Fine for now, but how long do you think that will last? At the first Toledo rally, a white guy in a multi-racial neighborhood was harassed by the blacks and the ARA provocateurs who showed up to incite them. I hope it doesn't turn against you, but it could as long as blacks listen to cheap race-hustlers like Jesse and Al instead of successful people like Bill Cosby and Clarence Thomas. Some racially-conscious whites do lash out and call you names. That's to be expected after 40 years of affirmative action, quotas, set-asides, and other forms of white-bashing. That's to be expected when blacks are never satisfied, when they keep coming back with more demands. First, equality. Second, preference. Third, reparations. What's next, the unconditional surrender of whites as in Zimbabwe and South Africa? However, your point is reasonable; some white nationalists need to clean up their discourse and we're trying to encourage this.

Lisa Renee said...

Easy solution to illegal immigration - arrest/fine/prosecute those that hire them.

No jobs? No illegal immigrants. Rather than punish the source of the problem which is those who make a profit from hiring illegals rather than US Citizens time is wasted on what doesn't work.

Send a few hundred illegal immigrants back and more will return because they will be hired here.

Arrest a few important/weathly business men who profit from this and watch how quickily illegal immigration ceases to be an issue.

J.P. Slovjanski said...

I notice that you erroneously link Border volunteer groups with "Neo-Nazis". This is not surprising since you don't live in a border state and don't deal with the conditions that people like me live in.

In case you weren't aware, there are actually very organized nationalist Mexican groups all over the Southwest, whose stated goal is to "retake their land", and they work to break down any effort to prevent illegal immigration, hiring of illegal immigrants, and even efforts to ID voters. Their own statements show that they have very explicit interests and that they intend to support those interests without regard to other ethnicities.

Their favorite line that they often shout at us is "GO BACK TO EUROPE!" Now to me, that sounds like a good suggestion, I for one am sick of this cesspool. But there's just one problem with that- European countries have also been convinced that an ethnically homogenous society is inherently evil, and that they too must accept loads of third world immigrants, cowing to their every demand.

So here's a deal; Mexicans foot the bill for whites in the Southwest to return to Europe, and in turn they condemn all efforts to bring racially non-European people into European nations and assist our efforts for this indirectly.

Anonymous said...

Lisa Renee - Your proposed solution is an essential element of immigration reform. If corporations can't pay dividends to their rich shareholders or bonuses to executives because they squandered them on huge fines for hiring illegal immigrants will cause the stockholders and executives to squeal like pigs. However, with Bush and the neo-cons in office, how likely is that to happen? These are the same people who passed out tax cuts for the rich in the middle of the war, and hate Social Security. And what difference do Democrats make? All they know how to do is filibuster.

liberal_dem said...

unless you are a member of a Native American tribe, you ought to keep your mouth shut on the topic of immigration.

White Taxpayer said...

White people are the real minority on this planet, at only 10-12% of the world's population, and with birthrate and age-distribution below replacement rate. So, why should we cede territory and economic benefits to non-whites (so-called "minorities"), who are in actuality 88-90 of the world's population, and who have most of the planet in which to reside?

We White Nationalists are all for self-preservation and self-determination of our own kind. We Whites are not the ones invading and usurping other peoples civilizations... it is the non-whites who are invading our territory and usurping our civilization, and Professor Kevin MacDonald of UCLB has documented that it was at the invitation of mostly Jews.

Yes, Jews who founded the NAACP. Jews who pushed for "civil rights". Jews who dissolved White peoples rights to Freedom of Association and Freedom of Disassociation, and Jews who were the main force behind crafting and lobbying for the 1965 immigration act that opened our borders.

Why? Like the Jewess "comedienne" Sarah Silverman said: "I don't think there would have been a holocaust if there had been black people in Germany... at least it wouldn't have happened to jews." Jews cynically use the non-whites as human shields so they can continue their hypocritical nation-wrecking undetected.

Meanwhile in Israel they are building walls and fences and wringing their hands over declining Jewish birthrates and increasing intermarriage for Jews. One standard for Jews, another standard for everybody else. Enough of these double standards.

We White people are the real minority on this planet, and in real danger of extinction. We White Nationalists are going to lobby and organize for our rights to self-preservation and self-determination, and if you had any integrity as a White man, you would join us instead of falling all over yourself to cater to the Jew-crafted multiracial party line.

White Taxpayer said...

One last thing Mike... you wrote:

"The first Toledo rally, which was cancelled when police began to lose control of the crowd, resulted in a four-hour riot."

Don't forget to tell the people that it was large numbers of ghetto blacks who were rioting and burning down buildings in an effort to stifle White mens free speech... it wasn't White people rioting. Forgot that little detail Mike?

Matt Drudge, Jr. said...

Wait til you see 2006.

Tomorrow Belongs To Me :)

Anonymous said...

Liberal_Dem - I was born in this country and I'm just as "native" as any so-called self-proclaimed "Native American". Freedom of expression is universal and equal for all American citizens, and that would also include naturalized citizens for that matter. The problem with so many of you liberals is you want to create a political pecking order in this country, with white males at the bottom.

historymike said...

I am not going to try to answer all of the white supremacist ideology here, as it is too voluminous, and I have better things to do with my time.

I find it interesting, though, that a fairly detached, centrist look at white supremacist activity merits so much rancor.

Imagine if I had taken a hard-left, full bore editorial approach...

liberal_dem said...

The problem with so many of you liberals is you want to create a political pecking order in this country, with white males at the bottom.

Wow! Exactly!! How did you figure us out so perfectly?

You are a genius.

So much for our little ploy.

[he wrings his hands and hides amongst the shadows...]

Mr. Schwartz said...

Mike,

White supremacism is on the decline believe it or not. Ten years ago, they could easily get 100's into the streets. The Klan was a real political force in the 1960s in the south. In the 1920s, 200,000 white supremacist marched in Washington DC.

Today, the best they could do is to get 50 in Toledo, nearly all of them were not from Toledo. It's sad to see that Toledo was targeted by nazis but the truth is, white supremacism is on the decline just as it has been for decades. You don't ever hear of a nazi march in Los Angeles, Houston, or Chicago lately do you?

Think of it, out of 300,000 citizens in Toledo, maybe three who showed up on the side of the nazi's were from Toledo. Even the person whom the nazis claim to have invited them into town turned on them. (Szych)

What the web has allowed to happen is that the paranoids, kooks, unstable teenagers, and goofballs have become the standard in white supremacism.

White supremacist are not a political force.

As long as mental illness is around, there is always going to be a few nutcase nazis around. But they are a dying breed, not the norm nor growing.

Happy Holidays,

Schwartz

infoterror said...

America's falling apart. I blame television, fast food, and democracy.

Lisa Renee said...

lib_dem

Ya know there are moments I really like you....

:-)

Anonymous said...

Schwartzo the KIKE is back to proudly putting Niggers over his own race. Why in the Fuck couldn't he have been hatched a Nigger? He is so miserable not being a stinking theiving Nigger Savage Ape with a Brillo pad for hair.

And KIKE, say what you want, your blog tried to install a cookie on my computer named splcenter.org i have no reason to lie about it.

Bill White said...

unless you are a member of a Native American tribe, you ought to keep your mouth shut on the topic of immigration.

Why? The "Native Americans" immigrated to the continents around 3000 BC from Asia and slaughtered the early white / Nordic colonies in North America -- colonies going back to at least 9000 BC, according to some of the graves they've found.

Plus, the Native Americans were (and still would be, if they weren't drunk most of the time) serial butchers, rapists and criminals.

There's no reason to feel sorry about their annihilation.

Bill White said...

Think of it, out of 300,000 citizens in Toledo, maybe three who showed up on the side of the nazi's were from Toledo.

Why stop there? Actually, none were from Toledo, because none of us were really there. The whole thing was a media illusion! There was no march!

Yeah, and there were "14" of us there.

Or "21".

And "35" at the second march.

You people are like a walking display of mental illness.

Of course, Schwartz doesn't mean a word he says, he just likes talking out his ass and trying to make it sound like something a rational person would say -- but the funny thing is that there are actual nuts like Michael Brooks who talk the same way and actually mistake their nonsense for reality.

Bill White said...

I am white, and I do not "flee from blacks." Nor do my neighbors.

Well, you do when they are running down the street burning buildings, waiving sticks and calling for Jewish-Bolshevik revolution.

Or, well, if you don't, you end up beaten with the windows smashed out of your car -- and I'm not sure that's something to be proud of.

LOL

historymike said...

Too much Bill White idiocy to address all at once, but here's a start:

1. Your attempt at prehistorical analysis is really funny, Bill, but completely ignores archaeological and anthropological research. Actually, Amerindian groups have been in the Western hemisphere since at least 14,000 CE, and perhaps as long as 50,000 years. The only evidence of a "Nordic" presence in the Americas before Columbus was the Vinland settlement, circa 1000. Kennewick Man may have been a Caucasian individual, but others argue convincingly that he had South Asian or Polynesian fatures.

2. I was at both rallies, and I counted 26 NSM supporters at the first and 35-40 at the second.

3. "Nut?" I think not. I write about what I see, what I hear, and what interests me. Don't like what I write? Stay the fuck away from Toledo, and quit attacking honest Toledoans from your Roanoke hovel.

4. As a multi-unit business owner in Toledo for 10 years, I averaged about 2 robberies a year. Of those robberies, only one was committed by a black person. The rest were committed by young white male punks (I did have some strung-out white woman rob one of my stores by threatening to stab a worker with a pair of scissors).

Anonymous said...

Bill White said...
"Well, you do when they are running down the street burning buildings, waiving sticks and calling for Jewish-Bolshevik revolution."

Gee Bill didn't you uses to run the streets calling for Jewish-Bolshevik revolution

liberal_dem said...

Billy sez:

Plus, the Native Americans were (and still would be, if they weren't drunk most of the time) serial butchers, rapists and criminals.

Reductio Ad Absurdum

Nice try, but, as usual, wrong.

Hooda Thunkit said...

Mike,

Now, you have piqued my curiosity…


You have been referring to the crazies with extreme “racial” views as “the Racist Right” and to 2005 as the “Year of the Racist Right.”

As a former Republican (now, an independent thinking individual), I question the reference to the “right,” as I saw, and still don’t see anything “right” (or, conservative, if you will) about these people/groups and their views or actions.

Please enlighten me if I have missed something.

I have seen lots of actions and heard lots of talk of a “racial” nature, but not from the political right. Is there a “right” in some non-political sense that this refers to?

To me, extremist, with no implied/assumed/assigned political direction or leaning, seems to cover these “racial” individuals more accurately.

Maybe we NEED to name a third party, The Extremist Party, for political purposes ;-)


Re: ”US House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI), has introduced anti-immigrant legislation that…”

Sensenbrenner’s proposed legislation, to me, appears to be racist on the face of it, only by nature of his poor choice of words.

More appropriate would have been introducing legislation that addressed illegal immigration, ALL illegal immigration. That is the REAL issue he should be addressing…


Re: ”Today’s growing white power movement…”

Kind of reminds me of the black power movement of the 60’s or 70’s.

Both were despicable…


And, ”…the fears of terrorism among Americans make the possibility of a domestic vigilante force seem all the more plausible.”

Lets us all hope that we have learned from history and NOT repeat the same mistakes, again…


Great piece Mike!

Hooda Thunkit said...

Lisa Renee, in a stroke of sheer genius wrote thusly:

"Easy solution to illegal immigration - arrest/fine/prosecute those that hire them.

No jobs? No illegal immigrants. Rather than punish the source of the problem which is those who make a profit from hiring illegals rather than US Citizens time is wasted on what doesn't work.

Send a few hundred illegal immigrants back and more will return because they will be hired here.

Arrest a few important/weathly business men who profit from this and watch how quickily illegal immigration ceases to be an issue."


Lisa,

I was going to excerpt parts of your post and respond, but it was so darned spot on, succinct, and brilliant, that I think chopping it up would be like butchering a masterpiece...

IOW, I liked it just the way you wrote it.

Hooda Thunkit said...

liberal_dem,
”unless you are a member of a Native American tribe, you ought to keep your mouth shut on the topic of immigration.”

Although I think that you have the right idea here, the “Native American tribe” is neither a single “tribe,” nor “native” to these parts, but immigrants much like our ancestors, only much earlier.

Hooda Thunkit said...

As for, “Whose land is (or, was) it anyway?”

I like to suggest that the land belongs to who occupies/controls it now, as possession changes over the centuries, for various reasons…

There is the issue of the land title, but that is a “modern” concept which only applies to more recent “possessions.”

The so-called “Native Americans” whom we have commonly come to believe as the original inhabitants of this land may indeed NOT have been the first, and we may never know or be able to prove differently…

Hooda Thunkit said...

Mike,
I liked it better when you didn't allow anonymous posts.

It kept cowardly "illiterati" out all together, raising the relative/collective I.Q. of viewers and posters above double digits.

The number of NSM posters that did register and post were a notch above the anonymous knuckle draggers and are/were mildly entertaining, albiet still screwed up.

So, if you are reconsidering this, and outside votes count... ;-)

historymike said...

Maybe I'll turn off the anonymous feature when I post something that is likely to attract the ire of the white supremacists...

Mr. Schwartz said...

Bill White apparently has the reading skills of a 9 year old. Bipolars have the attention span of a 9 year old no matter how high or low their IQ is.

I didn't say only 3 showed up on the nazi side in Toledo, I said perhaps 3 FROM TOLEDO showed up on your side and the rest were from out of town.

But all in all, it shows just how dead nazism is. Out of 300,000 citizens in Toledo, you couldn't even get 1/10 of 1 percent of them to support you. More than 99.9% of the citizens of Toledo chose not to support you.

Even the person whom idiots claimed to invited you turned on you bozos.

Bill White is an example of how a person with a 115 IQ can still be an idiot.

liberal_dem said...

The so-called “Native Americans” ...may indeed NOT have been the first, and we may never know or be able to prove differently…

Indeed, we may never know or prove differently. And, therefore, as there seems to have been no antecedent of these people, then they must be the 'native' Americans.

Bill White said...

Hey Mike:

I hear your wife doesnt give you any sex and henpecks you when you talk to female journalists. Is that true?

And Schwartz: 158 IQ and still mentally healthy, unlike your drunken gay pedophile ass.

Bill

Bill White said...

. I was at both rallies, and I counted 26 NSM supporters at the first and 35-40 at the second.

Funny, because every other paper counted 63 - 70,I have alist of 62 of their names, and the photos we have posted show upwards of 60.

So where did the other people go? Did they get airbrushed out of your memory like they did out of the photos on your site?

Bill

M A F said...

White says his IQ is 158 and not 115. Either way, it does little to alter the point he still believes in and supports the "stuperior logic" of the NSM.

historymike said...

White:

1. You really have a weird fascination with other peoples' sex lives. I suggest that you seek professional help, and I would discount whatever source is giving you such info (assuming you have not made it up - never a safe assumption with Bill White).

2. Many publications reported NSM counts as low as 30 for December 10 and 15 for October 15. My count was among the highest of the October 15 counts (excepting yours, of course, which always seem about double the actual number) and middle of the pack for December 10, which ranged from 30 to 60 by non-NSM counts. You may have had some people hiding indoors, but I never saw more than 38 bodies in front of One Government Center.

3. I don't "airbrush" photos, Bill. I have a point-and-click digital and an inexpensive photo editor. If I airbrushed, it would be very obvious.

4. Anyone bragging about IQ scores has some serious insecurity issues. This is akin to any other form of boasting (bank account, sex life, expenseive car), and is further evidence that you are quite disturbed. Again, seek help. Soon.

Nikki said...

Hey Mike:

I hear your wife doesnt give you any sex and henpecks you when you talk to female journalists. Is that true?


When bested in discussion by others, it is interesting to note that Bill White resorts to attempting to portray his opposition as sexually challenged. Generally speaking that sort of thing is just a means of projecting his own inadequacies onto someone else.

It should also be noted that he frequently tries to paint his naysayers as homosexuals, pedophiles, sexually promiscuous, or sexually deviant. That's why few of us worry about any of the things he does in this area, since most people already know that it is just Bill White getting his rocks off.

Mr. Schwartz said...

--To Bill "Curious" White--

Everyone on the web claims to have 158 IQ. So I suspect that 110 is his real IQ at the most. However, his common sense IQ however is about 3 standard deviations below normal. Also remember the movie Rainman and the character Dustin Hoffman played? His IQ was genius level in that film but unable to function in society. Jeffrey Dahmer is another example of someone highly intelligent but a sex pervert.

Some people have suspected that Bill White might suffer from a form of autism. He's intelligent but can't function in other manners like most people. I don't know for sure if he is mildly autistic or not. I suspect he's bi-polar at a minimum going by his mood swings and his early drug usage and alcoholism by White's own admission.


--To History Mike--

Bill White appears to be sexually stalking you also. Join the club! Bill White will sexually stalk anyone regardless of sex or age. You can't call him a bigot when it comes to sexual harassment. He fantasizes equally about men and women.

He's just jealous that us married men to go to bed with warm women while he has to go to bed with his right hand as his lover.

---To Nikki---

Psychologist has proven that those who constantly talk about deviant sex acts are sex deviants themselves. They've also proven that those who lash out against gays like Bill White has, often turn out to be gay themselves. They even did a major college study proving this to be the case. Bill likes to talk about sex so much about others because of the lack of it he gets outside his own body.

Mr. Schwartz said...

I just thought of this. You figure a person with a 158 IQ would easily be able to debate with facts.

Instead Bill White decides to debate by talking about sex organs.

It does make you wonder.

Nikki said...

Bill White's purported IQ of 158 is in his dreams. It is always a hoot to me when these self-appointed "leaders" get so cocky that they have to publish their inflated IQ's to try and impress. He's smart - but not smart enough to realize that by making such a claim he becomes laughable.

For as long as I have been following Bill White, sexual perversion has been a consistent thread through all of his antics. Especially when he becomes frustrated by his "enemies." He just can't help but resort to sexual slander.

It looks like he got his tit in the proverbial wringer with all of his stuff about Dukie et al - now he is having to back up and print a disclaimer. He even promises not to do that again. He can't live within the parameters of ANY movement and is burning his bridges with everyone.

Mr. Schwartz said...

Nikki,

Every single nazi I have emailed or chatted with on the internet always claims their IQ is around 150 to 170.

Notice how he incapable of intelligent debate and incapable of telling the truth. Instead he has to talk about sex acts.

Anonymous said...

Bill White said...

Plus, the Native Americans were (and still would be, if they weren't drunk most of the time) serial butchers, rapists and criminals.
==================

speaking of drunks how is Mark Martin doing ?

liberal_dem said...

Bill White said...
Hey Mike:

I hear your wife doesnt give you any sex and henpecks you when you talk to female journalists. Is that true?




Ad Hominem argument, Billy, and just as fallacious as any 'tactic' that you attempt to use.

Get the hook!

Bill White said...

Nikki:

Want a copy of the IQ test? Taken before they admitted me into the Montgomery Blair Magnet program, at around age 14.

Mike:

Of course its an adhominem attack. And, someone who knows you told me today that your wife nags you, is constantly jealous of other women, and doesn't give you much sex -- despite the fact you two have produced a few children.

It came up in the context of "What a miserable ass that Mike Brooks is", "Oh, you don't know the half of it. You should meet his wife."

LOL

And Schwartz: As always, you aren't even worth responding to.

Bill

Bill White said...

Mike:

The fact you "couldn't" count more than 38 indicates that either:

a) you have a problem where you can't count higher trhan 38;

b) you have a visions deficiency; or,

c) You're an outright liar.

Personally, I tend to lean towards c).

As to sexual deviancy, I have yet to meet an anti-racist with a normal sex life -- though, I admit, Mike, you being henpecked by a jealous and chaste wife is probably more of a common sex life.

Bill

historymike said...

Mr. White:

Once again, you demonstrate that you will stoop to any level to spread your filth.

I am sure that no one you know has ever met my wife, spoken with her, or knows anything about her. Your despicable attempt to drag in a person who has nothing to do with this is sickening, but I should have known you would do this.

I love my wife, am very happy in my marriage, and enjoy a normal life in every sense of the term. Your "sources" are as delusional as you (if indeed they exist).

As far as counting, the NSM count of 70 is the really funny matter. I suspect that the "Montgomery Blair Magnet program" of which you so fondly reminisce should have been more concerned about your eyesight, and not your IQ.

Arnold said...

none of the web cams showed more than 37/38 people at any time

count em bill

even if you had 300 hundred Nazis there it would still have been a flop when you consider we live in a country with 300 million people. Even other racists do not like Nazis

Lisa Renee said...

Thanks HT I truly believe that is the only way illegal immigration is going to stop.

I've often wondered about the whole "Racist Right" description. Most of them don't support the Republican Party or the Democratic Party so technically they aren't really "Right".

Yet we tend to view groups as to the right or the left, so given the left is typically assigned to those more liberal I think that is how the whole "Racist Right" came into play. Rather than it meaning they had any connection with what most of us would consider the "Right".

(my 2 cents on that one)

:-)

White Taxpayer said...

Interesting how no one responded to the legitimate points brought up in my prior "White Taxpayer" posts.

historymike said...

Sorry, White Taxpayer, I've been busy with more important things than debating your ideology. I may get to it this weekend.

Nikki said...

Bill White said...
Nikki:

Want a copy of the IQ test? Taken before they admitted me into the Montgomery Blair Magnet program, at around age 14.


Actually yes, Bill - I do want a copy. Be sure to include the raw scores if you have them, along with any narrative that was written. You have my email address.

historymike said...

Oh! Oh! Oh!

Nikki, can I send you my GRE, SAT, and IQ scores, too?

Huh? Can I please? Pretty please?

:-}

Nikki said...

lol ~~~@ Mike!! I have a feeling that your testing scores will prove much more valid than any test that White took attributing a 158 IQ to him.

It's not that I think that Bill White isn't intelligent - it's just that there are different realms of intelligence which all combine to give a full scale IQ. Often schools fail to test all areas and just as often the tests are scored inappropriately in relation to the standardized norm.

If Bill White wants to claim a 158 IQ - let him put up or shut up. Like Harry - I have just had enough of these "intellectual racists." They all claim these phenominally high intellinge quotients - yet, between them they don't have enough sense to know one head from the other.

historymike said...

Still sticking by your story, Bill?

Would you like to disclose your source?

Or should we just assume you are, as usual, making this up?

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows it was Isis running you down, Mike. She has been on Mikki's Nest, NIM Busters, and VNN trashing you. You must have really pissed her off man.

historymike said...

I know nothing, anonymous, except that life is better when I ignore this topic.

historymike said...

But, to answer your question:

I have nothing but praise for Isis, unless I am given proof otherwise.

She is an excellent photographer and understands news well.

Beyond that, I have nothing to say.

Nikki said...

If this is the same anonymous that posted earlier from Anchorage - it is you who is "running" Mike down on VNN.

If not - then I apologize and ask that you give us a link.

Mr. Schwartz said...

Let's see, Bill has an IQ of 158 but yet had to go through community college before being accepted by the University of Maryland. So either White had bad grades in school or didn't score high enough on the SAT. I suspect the latter but White will claim he scored a 1600 on the SAT. White never completed college. He failed to graduate.

I didn't have to go through community college before getting into a 4 year school and I got a bachelors degree.

And many autistic people can score real high on IQ test but can not socially function in society. I suspect White's real IQ is around 110-115, still above average but nothing exceptional.

Some of the people I am staying with this week seem to think that White suffers from some sort of autism. I suspect he's bi-polar who mostly is on the manic side.

Of course, only a professional can accurate diagnose the mental illness that White suffers from. No doubt the doctor would have to put White into restraints and watch him over a period of days to diagnose his condition.

It would be very interesting to get his school records from Montgomery county. All I need is a "William A White" signature to get those documents released. I'll notorize the signature and get someone to send away for the records.

Nikki said...

Harry, did you ever consider Asperger's Syndrome?

Anonymous said...

Nikki - reference your post on 12/29 at 11:38 P.M. Here's the VNN link where we discuss History Mike:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=27804

Heck, you guys shouldn't complain when we "racists" come here to interact with you. You got 65 responses on this story, nowhere close on any of the others.

On a more serious note, sorry to hear about your local flooding. Good luck coping with it.

Arnold said...

Bill White said...

unlike your drunken gay pedophile ass.
===============
Funny you should trash Gays

Speaking about gays

liberal_dem said...

I suspect he's bi-polar who mostly is on the manic side

Well, I suspect that he's a dumb ass life-loser with megolomania characteristics.

But then, I may be wrong.

At least I'm sure of the dumb ass part.

liberal_dem said...

I suspect he's bi-polar who mostly is on the manic side

Well, I suspect that he's a dumb ass life-loser with megolomania characteristics.

But then, I may be wrong.

At least I'm sure of the dumb ass part.

historymike said...

Anonymous:

I don't live my life getting excited about the number of comments on any given post.

I would rather have three intelligent, well-reasoned posts than 300 pieces of rhetorical flotsam.

I write about that which interests me, and if I get a smidgen of self-promotion, hallelujah. If not, whoop-tee-doo.

I would be writing with or without the blog phenomenon. A blog just gives me instantaneous publishing opportunities, and allows me to cover topics that mainstream publications might pass on.

Also, I can editorialize here, whereas my work as an investigative journalist does not allow me the same opportunities.

Thanks, though, for your comments about area flooding. You did justice to the WN cause in demonstrating that not all white power types are mean-spirited hate-mongers.

Anonymous said...

IQ : Which test for IQ did Willie Wonka take?

Isn't there a psychologist in the house?

We require modern tests and valid scores these days.

His elementary school teacher is not qualified to administer a test of this nature. Who tested Bills IQ, and why? Was he exhibiting signs of mental retardation or autism during childhood?

Anonymous said...

God will bless any nation that chooses to stand with Israel. All of you Nazis need to really take a hint: Hitler, with one of the most powerful armies on the face of the earth, couldn't manage to eradicate the Jewish people and take control of the world.

Every dictator or tyrant that has raised his hand to the Jewish people in an effort to exterminate them, has failed miserably.

As a Christian I firmly believe that the Holy Bible is the inspired Word of God, and that God chose the Jewish people as His Chosen People. Greater men than Jeff Schoep and Bill White have struck out in anti-Semitism and bigotry. Again, they all sealed their own fate when they chose to move against the Jewish people.

And don't bring that tire old false theology of "the jews killed Jesus", or "the jews don't accept Christ, so they are damned," around my door. You don't speak for God, and God will judge each man in His own way. God claimed them as His chosen; that is good enough for me.

As for all the members of the NSM,I would entreat you to get out of the "white power" cult now, and seek redemption in the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. Otherwise, you are all lost.

And, as for this being "The Year of the Racist Right", I would argue that that is one of the biggest jokes going. Maybe "The Year of the Unrepentant Sinners", instead?

Love,

EB

Anonymous said...

PS:

Hitler was a Satanist, had an incestuous relationship with his niece Geli Raubal, and was quite possibly a bi-sexual. He shot himself like a coward whe he lost

Boy, he realy was a hero, right, NSM guys? LOLLOLLOL!

Anonymous said...

Hitler was no Satanist, he was much like the murderous God of the bible

They both killed millions at their whim, they tortured men women and children, they lied. Where as Hitler was just evil the bible God created evil


As I recall in the Bible Satan murdered no one where as God continually was torturing and killing people. Heaven can't be that great seeing how 1/3 of the angels in heaven rebelled against God, even Hitler did not have 1/3 of the Germans rebel against him

Hitler did have incestuous relationship with his niece Geli Raubal. Maybe he got his clue from Lot's daughters who had sex with their father or Noah's son who had sex with his father.

Do said...

Happy New Year to All!

I am going to continue to hope that 2006 will provide Toledo with a level of hindsight that will serve to educate us all.

To be able to move on with our lives, ignore the ignorance of people like Bill White and his boy toys, accept our neighbors for who they are - color, religion, ethnic background aside, and enjoy a progressive and profitable year would be the ULTIMATE slap in the face of the NSM and its pitiful bunch of long-distance cheerleaders.

May we all enjoy a more compassionate and informed year.

PS: Bill, grow up. Get a clue. Your continuous attempts to discredit people with erroneous information regarding their personal lives is childish. A personal life is just that - personal. Stay out of it. Or are you so mesmerized by human genitalia that you just can't stop thinking about it? Ask your physician if a lobotomy might be in order. That might help.