Feb 2, 2006

Gunmen Force Closure Of EU Office In Gaza Over Cartoons

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Left: Masked gunmen atop the EU's Gaza City offices; photo courtesy of Washington Post

(Gaza City, Palestine) Masked gunmen descended upon the European Union's office Thursday in Gaza City, and forced the building to close. They were responding to political cartoons that depicted the prophet Mohammad in an offensive light.

Members of the groups Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades fired semiautomatic weaponry into the air. The latter group is the armed faction of Palestinian political party Fatah.

While some may see this as a ploy by Fatah to regain the ideological high ground, the debate over the images has raged for several months. One of the cartoons shows Mohammad with a turban that doubles as a bomb with a lit fuse.

Muslims consider any depiction of Mohammad or Allah as sacriligeous.

What the event most clearly shows is the near-chaos into which Palestine has descended. One might even conjecture that officials sympathetic to Fatah might allow such actions to continue as a way to bring Hamas into disfavor.

I suspect that the situation in Palestine will only continue to worsen, and that it will only be a matter of time before the Israeli tanks roll through the streets of Gaza City again.

And that, my friends, will be a dark day in the region.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Looks like all hell is busting out over there.

Anonymous said...

Well, it certainly looks like the security services are either complicit or inept, anonymous.

historymike said...

More inclined to agree with anonymous #2 than anonymous #1, but we may be on the verge of Palestinian civil war.

BTW - if you must use "anonymous" try to put some identifier so we can keep track of who is who.

I understand peoples' privacy concerns, but it is sometimes difficult to have a conversation with multiple anonymous posters on a thread.

White Mormon Patriot said...

With so much unemployment and poverty in the Occupied Territories, you would think they wouldn't waste time obsessing about how Muhammad is depicted. This is the type of reaction that gives Islam a bad name.

Stefan Schmidt said...

North Western Europe has a Muslim problem. They allow many non-Whites and non-Western immigrants and act surprised when problems arise. Europe has a distinct culture and a distinct population and to water it down with incompatible foreigners is suicidal. The economic situation in Europe is stagnant (unemployment rates in the double digits) due to these immigrants who simply live off the dole of honest, hardworking Europeans.

Overall, by 2050 or so, Europe might not be a majority White continent (or at least barely White). The White race due to its recessive phenotypes and low birth rates will become extinct if such trends continue.

Denmark is for the Danish, England for the English, Germany for the Germans, Netherlands for the Dutch, Norway for the Norwegians, and so on.

Similarly, as Environmental groups will preserve the habitat of endangered species, the White race has to preserve its habitat.

The USA, at this juncture, is only 66% White (this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for all intensive purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypic ally) and with the current Hispanic hordes invading our country, this figure is decreasing rapidly. With this influx of unsuited people (and Jewish lobbying), the glamour of the USA is decaying and in no short time (50 or so years) the socialist state of China will surpass us militarily.

Ask yourselves: What kind of country do I want to live in or want my children to grow up in?

The answer is apparent (to all Whites) considering the phenomena of ‘White flight’ (the reasons are much more than just economic considering that there are many suburban communities surrounding Detroit (my frame of reference) comparable economically but with very different demographic compositions).

Dariush said...

Bloody savages.

Haven't they learned yet that faith, and the sacred icons and prophets of faith, are only to be mocked and denigrated? Not upheld and defended?

Dariush said...

Stefan,

While I've found myself in agreement with the contents of a few of your earlier posts, what exactly does your post above have to do with the story that Mike posted about, in any way, shape or form?

Here we have a story about Palestinans in Palestine showing unflinching determination that their faith and their traditions will not be mocked and denigrated by those who harbor nothing but ill-will towards them.

And you're posting something about birthrates and immigration numbers in Europe.


And incidentally:

"The USA, at this juncture, is only 66% White (this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for all intensive purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypic ally)"

Them's some serious fightin' words in Ozone Park, Bensonhurst, Astoria or any number of other areas that I can think of.

Stefan Schmidt said...

what exactly does your post above have to do with the story that Mike posted about, in any way, shape or form?
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Muslim immigrants in Denmark have the audacity to object ‘free speech’ in their host country so I took the opportunity to discuss the real problem which is bigger than some whiny, sniveling Muslims. Immigration and multiculturalism is the disease and these Muslims are simply the symptom. Remove these Muslims and more importantly multiculturalism and you remove the ingredients for this fiasco. Modern medicine has taught us to cure the illness instead of solely treating the symptom.

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Them's some serious fightin' words in Ozone Park, Bensonhurst, Astoria or any number of other areas that I can think of.
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That is my point. You cannot logically reason with these people before they threaten to resort to physical recourse. If a human’s only response to discord is ‘opening up a can of whoop ass’ then I have to say that they are not human in my book.

While there will always be outliers in any group the only suitable way to place judgment on any group is to examine its average.

Calico Jack said...

"who for all intensive purposes"

Mike, what is it that you do that attracts these visitors?

Stefan Schmidt said...

correction:

I meant 'extensive.'

I should proof read but that is generally boring.

Stefan Schmidt said...

Mike, what is it that you do that attracts these visitors?
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The articles on Bill White don’t hurt.

historymike said...

Yep. Neo-Nazi and White supremacist articles attract a wide variety of readers, all right.

I am on a hiatus, though, about that particular individual, unless he pays a visit within 100 miles of my city.

Stefan Schmidt said...

I am on a hiatus, though, about that particular individual, unless he pays a visit within 100 miles of my city.
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LOL.

I do not think Bill White could resist the publicity.

You are just about daring him to make a surprise visit in Toledo.

Dariush said...

stefan: "correction:

"I meant 'extensive.'"


The whole point of a correction is to correct.

That sentence should read:

"this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for all intents and purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypically"

If you want to ward off the impression that people such as yourself are all subliterate knuckle-dragging neanderthals, then you might want to proofread your posts, no matter how painful or time-consuming or whatever you think it is.


"That is my point. You cannot logically reason with these people before they threaten to resort to physical recourse. If a human’s only response to discord is ‘opening up a can of whoop ass’ then I have to say that they are not human in my book."

So now Italians, Greeks, etc. have gone from being no different than Mexicans to, not even subhuman, but inhuman in your book? All I was trying to tell you was that if you go to any one of these neighborhoods and start calling the Italians or Greeks there "wetback" or "beaner" you probably shouldn't be alone or unarmed.

You think the fact that some folks don't take insults about their ancestry lying down makes them inhuman? Really? What does that say about you, then. And about the people whom you purportedly care about?

Dariush said...

stefan: "in no short time (50 or so years) the socialist state of China will surpass us militarily."

Well, I hate to break it to you but "Red China" hasn't been "Red" for quite some time now. As far as "socialism" goes, if it's massive centralization of (and ever-expanding) state power, total surveillance of the citizenry, an economy running on a rising mountain of international debt, and so forth, that you're looking for, you should be looking a lot closer to home.

And have no fear, China doesn't even spend an eighth as much on its military as we do. Which means that we'll have no shortage of missiles, bombs, tanks and nutritious depleted uranium to feast on once the bottom drops out of the dollar. Hooray!!!


"Muslim immigrants in Denmark have the audacity to object 'free speech' in their host country so I took the opportunity to discuss the real problem which is bigger than some whiny, sniveling Muslims."

It's not just Muslim immigrants in Denmark who are objecting, but as the article posted by Mike (as well as today's Washington Post) makes clear, it's Muslims across the entire globe who are disgusted and appalled.

Any depiction of Muhammad (pbuh), whatever the connotation and however positive or negative, is blasphemy -- but a cartoon depicting the Prophet (pbuh) with a glowering, evil visage and a lit fuse coming out of his turban is just beyond all bounds of acceptability.

And if you think that it's shocking that people would be upset by such blasphemy or by having their faith, their culture and their traditions mocked, insulted, denigrated or spit on in this manner, then again I have to ask... doesn't this really say more about you and yours, then it does about us? Or is it just that you won't be satisfied until the rest of the world shares in the joys of your own cultural nihilism?

Having said all that that I wholeheartedly agree that petitioning the government for redress or demanding state censorship is rather "whiney" and "snivelling". Further protests and an organized economic boycott will be much more effective and honourable methods of channeling our outrage.

If the Saudi government divests from the EU, for example, the results would be devastating for countries like Denmark and the Netherlands.


"Overall, by 2050 or so, Europe might not be a majority White continent (or at least barely White). The White race due to its recessive phenotypes and low birth rates will become extinct if such trends continue."

If you seek to reverse these trends, my advice once again is to look within and find out what went wrong and what you can do about it. The West no longer places any real value on marriage, child-rearing or the (in our case, extended) family. Instead such things are dismissed as detracting from the maximum possible enjoyment of life that any one individual can attain for himself or herself.

While immigration on a small scale has been with us since the dawn of recorded history (and is rather a good thing overall) I do agree that massive, demographic-shifting immigration has historically always had a devastating effect and -- in general -- has happened as a result of the military conquest of one nation by another nation or people.

The fact that this has happened in the West without a single shot being fired, again, speaks more to the deficiencies of your own societies, and especially your ruling classes, then it does to those who flock to them seeking greatly improved economic prosects for themselves and their progeny.

On this and related topics I greatly recommend Michael Lind's masterful essay from the June 1995 issue of Harper's, "To have and to have not." Simply one of the best metapolitical essays I've ever read... really explores the "why", "how", "who" and "wherefore" of the broad questions that lay before us all as Americans.

Stefan Schmidt said...

That sentence should read:

"this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for all intents and purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypically"
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No the sentence should read as such: "this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for extensive purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypically

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If you want to ward off the impression that people such as yourself are all subliterate knuckle-dragging neanderthals, then you might want to proofread your posts, no matter how painful or time-consuming or whatever you think it is.
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This is a blog not an English class, seriously. A mistake in grammar or spelling is acceptable as long as the original message of the post is understandable.

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So now Italians, Greeks, etc. have gone from being no different than Mexicans to, not even subhuman, but inhuman in your book? All I was trying to tell you was that if you go to any one of these neighborhoods and start calling the Italians or Greeks there "wetback" or "beaner" you probably shouldn't be alone or unarmed.
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I would leave Italy out of the ‘Southern European’ category (Sicilians stay). ‘Wetback’ is a derogatory term for people who cross the Rio Grande to enter this country (hence the name ‘Wetback’) and I believe ‘beaner’ applies to the Hispanic’s diet of beans but I may be wrong on this one.

Fighting is primitive behavior.

‘If a human’s only response to discord is ‘opening up a can of whoop ass’ then I have to say that they are not human in my book."’ This sentence was worded poorly; I did not intend to generalize with this sentence, just state my disgust with individual people.

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And have no fear, China doesn't even spend an eighth as much on its military as we do. Which means that we'll have no shortage of missiles, bombs, tanks and nutritious depleted uranium to feast on once the bottom drops out of the dollar. Hooray!!!
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Look at the breakdown of our military budget.

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Any depiction of Muhammad (pbuh), whatever the connotation and however positive or negative, is blasphemy
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This is Denmark not Saudi Arabi. The immigrants in Denmark were the first to object and thus making this into a national story. The immigrants obviously have a greater loyalty towards the Koran than their host state: Denmark.

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The fact that this has happened in the West without a single shot being fired, again, speaks more to the deficiencies of your own societies, and especially your ruling classes, then it does to those who flock to them seeking greatly improved economic prosects for themselves and their progeny.
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I am going to be anal now (like you and Calico Jack): ‘then’ (after ‘classes’) should be ‘than’ and I do not believe the word ‘prosects’ exists.

People in glass houses should not throw stones…

The liberalization of Europe’s immigration policies is an interesting subject. The World Bank threatens to exact economic retribution if certain standards are not met in regards to illegal immigration (look at Russia and their latest threat). The World Bank is run by Paul Wolfowitz, a Zionist Jew.

Dariush said...

stefan: "No the sentence should read as such: "this number is inflated considering the presence of Southern Europeans in this figure who for extensive purposes are not much higher on the totem pole than Hispanics genetically or phenotypically"

I hate to continue with the anal grammar nazi theme, but, dude that makes no sense at all. Look up "extensive" in the dictionary and tell me I'm wrong.

"Extensive purposes"?

"Large in extent, range or amount" purposes?

Check this out:

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VERY BASIC LINGUISTIC NOTE: Of late, I've noticed a number of different people misuse a stock cliché: for all intents and purposes.

A handy online usage "dictionary" has this to say about those who mistakenly use "for all intensive purposes" in place of the real phrase:

Another example of the oral transformation of language by people who don't read much. "For all intents and purposes" is an old cliché which won't thrill anyone, but using the mistaken alternative is likely to elicit guffaws.

This diagnosis is on the money. In fact, I recently saw a certain blogger (who shall remain nameless) say: "for all extensive purposes," which was more than my virgin linguistic heart could bear!

"Good Lord!" I exclaimed. "Are we all to be barbarians, running about with little or no sense?" I asked, as I tut-tuted and stroked my moustache, after having sipped from my Belleek teacup.

Anyway, I feel behooved to let all you dear readers know about this potential barbarism, as well as to inform you of the online version of Paul Brians' Common Errors in English Usage. Brians is a Professor of English at Washington State University, who has identified a number of all-too-typical missteps and their proper antidotes. I hope you enjoy the read. It is, after all, quite intensive—and extensive.

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Dariush said...

stefan: "I would leave Italy out of the 'Southern European' category (Sicilians stay). 'Wetback' is a derogatory term for people who cross the Rio Grande to enter this country (hence the name 'Wetback') and I believe 'beaner' applies to the Hispanic's diet of beans but I may be wrong on this one."

You were the one who said that Southern Europeans were essentially no different than Hispanics. I deliberately used derogatory terms for Hispanics in my hypothetical scenario. If you call a Greek guy in Astoria or an Italian guy in Bensonhurst a "spic" or a "beaner" he's likely not even to look at you, because he'll think that you're talkin' to some Puerto Rican guy. But if you're right in his face and call him that he'll likely lay you out flat on your back -- for calling him a Puerto Rican.

Capiche?


"Fighting is primitive behavior."

"That is my point. You cannot logically reason with these people before they threaten to resort to physical recourse. If a human's only response to discord is 'opening up a can of whoop ass' then I have to say that they are not human in my book."


What's funny about these statements is that a great many people the world over look at the U.S. and say the exact same thing.


"This is Denmark not Saudi Arabi. The immigrants in Denmark were the first to object and thus making this into a national story. The immigrants obviously have a greater loyalty towards the Koran than their host state: Denmark."

Actually no, that's not true. The drawings appeared in a Danish newspaper back in September. It wasn't until just recently when they were reprinted in newspapers in Norway, France, Switzerland, Holland and Italy that they became international news. I certainly hadn't seen them or heard of them until this week.

If Christians object to a work of "art" which depicts the crucified Prophet Jesus (pbuh) drowning in a vat of urine -- a work of art which is suddenly replicated in half a dozen countries in the name of "artistic freedom" and "free speech" -- does that mean that their true loyalty lies with the Bible and not their nation?

Stefan, this is sheer hypocrisy. You claim to want to preserve your culture and your traditions and to defend it from those who would do it harm, yet you would deny all others the right to the same.

It's as if you won't be satisfied until all of your cultural poisons and pollutants are spread to us as well... by force of arms if need be. Misery loves company, as they say.

Read this piece by Buchanan and tell me what you think.

Stefan Schmidt said...

Denmark is not Saudi Arabia (maybe I should repeat this one more time). The culture in Denmark is different from the culture in Saudi Arabia and therefore maybe offensive to foreigners who have a different moral foundation from the average Dane.

I do not care how the Muslims depict Jesus. This is their culture and therefore none of my business.

And so, the culture in Denmark is none of their business as well.

The Muslim immigrants in Denmark are forgetting where they are. They have no right to invade a foreign country and then demand the citizens (or natural inhabitants) to change their culture so that these immigrants will feel more comfortable and accepted.

This is akin to me being a guest in your house and in the process trying to force you to change certain rules that better suit me. This is sheer selfishness.

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Neo-conservatism is a Jewish Supremacist movement. They not only want to change the culture in other nations (including our own) but also want to change the demographics as well.

Paul Wolfowitz (now in charge of the World Bank) has said that ‘Russia would benefit from substantially changing its immigration policy.’ Russia’s immigration policy as of today is very strict and Paul is using his position as the leader of the World Bank and the dire situation of the Russian economy to attempt to ‘bully’ Russia into opening its borders.

BTW,

If you are an Italian (especially Northern Italian) then I was not talking about you or your people.

My definition of Southern European are people from these places: Portugal, Greece, Albania, parts of Italy (namely Sicily), parts of Spain, parts of the Balkans. These people belong to the ‘Mediterranean’ subgroup and generally are swarthy and ‘hotheaded.’

I lived in Italy (Venice) for a short time in my elementary school days (my mother who is a Linguist did research there and took me a long; this lasted for 2 years) and I do see Northern Italians as ‘compatible’ individuals.

Name withheld to protect the guilty said...

"massive, demographic-shifting immigration has historically always had a devastating effect"

So I guess the wave of Germans during their 1816-7 famine, Irish during the Potato Famine, Italians in the 1910's, and all sorts of Europeans after WWII devastated our nation with each successive wave? The only people who would think that way are the ones pushed onto reservations during those times.

American Muslims are taking this somewhat better than their MidEast counterparts; I haven't seen any reports of violence over here. Which suggests not that we are dealing with "inhumans," but rather "humans" that grew up in a very different situation from what we did. Not that the violence is an appropriate response in my mind, but any time you stick people into a repressive dictatorship whose leader points to an outside source as the root of all problems, you're going to have trouble.

So when all of the ME dictatorships point to US/Western Europe as the root of all problems, it's only natural for Arabs to commit inhuman acts. Just as when a dictator pointed to Jews as the root of all problems, and a bunch of white Germans were complicit in the killing of 6 million Jews plus another 6 million non-Jews.

Point is, ALL people of ALL races & creeds are capable of evil, evil stuff, given the right situation.

You don't like non-white people, fine. Doesn't bother me, as long as you don't assault them. But I am offended by faulty logic.

(And before my heredity, etc. is disparaged by some of the less-literate racist types that sometimes show up on Mike's blog, allow me to add that I am a straight, Lutheran male NRA member who can trace ancestry almost exclusively to pre-WWI Prussia (arguably the most Aryan of Germanic states)).