Apr 22, 2006

Lansing Leaderboard Tally: 1300 Antis, 400 Cops, 81 Reporters, 77 Nazis

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Left: Lansing police officer gets ready for the NSM rally, courtesy of Lansing State Journal

(Lansing, MI) The early results are in from Nazifest 2006 in Lansing, and it looks like the NSM has produced another expensive (for taxpayers) dud. No surprise there.

The most accurate counts I have seen so far point to a total of 77 Nazis and assorted white nationalists in attendance at the rally on the steps of the Michigan state capitol. This is a far cry from the 200 predicted by NSM spokesman Bill White, although White's counting methods suggest that the man may be cross-eyed.

The estimates I have read suggest a cost of $250,000 to Lansing and the state of Michigan, which works out to a cost of $3,246 to protect each Nazi from getting their skulls kicked in by throngs of protesters.

In a way this rally was more cost-effective than some of the previous NSM circuses. The two Toledo rallies cost, respectively, $12,692 and $7,895 per Nazi in protection costs (based upon turnouts of 26 Nazis at Toledo I and 38 at Toledo II, with security costs of $330K and $300K).

The best news, though, is that injuries and property damage were minimal. A Lansing State Journal reporter saw an early scuffle in which a protester sustained a head laceration, and reports indicate that both sides were, in the main, orderly and law-abiding.

OK - the most important part - assessing my predictions:

Historymike predicted...45 Nazis, 77 showed up.
Historymike predicted... Bill White would say 190 Nazis, but so far he says 160. I could win this one, since his counts usually grow as time passes.
Historymike predicted...600 antis, and 800 showed up, plus 500 people at the diversity rally.
Historymike predicted...36 arrests, only 15 so far.

I say that my reputation as the Midwest's preeminnent Nazi rally handicapper is still intact. Nikki and Harry Schwartz still reign as champs worldwide.

19 comments:

Sarah said...

Thank you for keeping us updated, you've been my go to site all day.

Mr. Schwartz said...
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Mr. Schwartz said...

At last year's main NSM rally, they drew 150 nazis to Yorktown.

At this year's main NSM rally, they drew 75 nazis to Lansing.

A decline of 50 percent in just one year. The Yorktown rally was the last nazi rally done under Jeff Schoep before Bill White took over the NSM.

Life is getting better.....

Mr. Schwartz said...

I forgot to add.......

Mike,

Are you also good at betting against the spread on football games? You got the over-under almost exact for this nazi event.

Nice job!!!!!!!

Sarah said...

I'm learning from you all, especially since the NSM has their sights on my hometown Olympia Wa, they plan a rally on our capitol steps this July.

Olympia United Against Hate

historymike said...

(bowing to the kudos of the world, or at least the 2 people who actually read the post)

Yes, the 77 Nazis was by any estimate pretty pathetic.

The NSM has been building this up for many months, tying it to Hitler's April 20 birthday and trying to link this also to immigration.

If this is the best they can do, I think we are a long way from the fascist revolution.

That being said, though, these clowns are pretty successful at attracting media attention (myself included).

They also help drive mainstream America slightly further to the right, by making the neo-cons and people like Ann Coulter seem positively warm and fuzzy in comparison.

Stefan Schmidt said...

I stayed for about 15 minutes before going to eat at a nearby Outback steakhouse—yeah, it was that mundane.

The NSM accomplishes little with this style of rally—at least in Toledo 1 and Orlando their message was heard but in this situation……

They should petition for the right to march through a community instead of staying in one location where they would inevitably be ostracized and ignored—the only people to hear their message is them and the birds.

They also neglected MSU—the biggest college in Michigan. If I were them I would hold the protest within the campus (after all, it is a public university)—the youth seem to be the most likely to join an organization such as the NSM.

If anything they should have passed out fliers to the students—garner interest and possibly ignite some racial tensions.

The NSM needs a new strategy.

Stephanie said...

"The NSM needs a new strategy."

Well, here's to hoping they don't get it!


On another note: Add my kudos to the growing list of those who've read this, Mike!
:)

Nikki said...

Mike, you are just amazing! I honestly thought they might break 100 on this one.

Yeah, they pick up some media but they really didn't get much in the way of national with this one. LOL! Don't you think it's interesting that Bill wasn't available for comment after the rally?

Stefan, I agree - they really do need a new strategy - but anything they come up with will be much the same.

Notice that they are hyping the immigration problem and that isn't working for them either.

It's going to be really interesting to see how they promote the Olympia event.

Stefan Schmidt said...
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Stefan Schmidt said...

Nikki,

I wasn’t even aware that NSM was protesting illegal immigration until Mike wrote it on his blog—merely mentioning it does not constitute protesting.

Their strategy book is infantile---staging vague protests that the public is unaware of until a couple of days before the day, trying to garner just enough media coverage so that some one somewhere would join.

This is quite ineffective—maybe Bill the millionaire (who drives a Toyota—a frugal millionaire) with a genius IQ could try and think of new strategies for once.

Dariush said...

Stefan: "They also neglected MSU—the biggest college in Michigan."

Probably a good reason for this. I don't know about MSU personally, but most college and university campuses now have very strict speech codes, with certain designated "free speech zones" being the only areas on campus where the codes don't apply.

Man, I miss Hyde Park. Nothing like that here in the "land of the free."

Stefan Schmidt said...

Probably a good reason for this. I don't know about MSU personally, but most college and university campuses now have very strict speech codes, with certain designated "free speech zones" being the only areas on campus where the codes don't apply.

Man, I miss Hyde Park. Nothing like that here in the "land of the free."
--Dariush

You might be on to something, however, I doubt passing out fliers would break the guidelines (maybe speaking would even though it is a public university).

I will look into it.

Stefan Schmidt said...

Michigan State University doesn't enforce any speech codes, but the bill would protect future decisions to prohibit speech, said Henry Silverman, president of the Lansing branch of the American Civil Liberties Union.


my source

Dariush said...

Great.

That's one huge hurdle you won't have to worry about.

liberal_dem said...

On CNN this morning the 'Lansing Rally' spot got less coverage than the next report: a house full of bees.

Looks like the bees out maneuvered the so-called hornets nest.

Hooda Thunkit said...

Belated Kudos Mike on your finely honed remote reporting skills. Some of us eventually get to your site and catch up on the nefarious deeds of those wacky nazi wannabes.

When I read one of your nazi reports, I picture many of the "players" as if they were characters in a Hogan's Heros rerun.

I can't help it, that's what pops into my head ;-)

Anonymous said...

Quarter million dollars? It's not true, I'm sure.

500 policeman x 3 hours work. 15,000 dollars, if they has $10/hour.

The big question: Are the nazis are the cause, the cities must to spend so much money for the security? The answer is simple: NO.

The insane counter-protesters are the violents, and they making trouble.

(Like now, 16 arrested peoples are was all anti-fascist communists.)

If there is no antifa, there is no trouble. If there is no trouble, then the city doesn't need to spend money for the security.
Think about it!

In my country 1000 (mostly skinheads) went to a remembrance rally, and because there are was NO red protesters, there was almost nothings security. All cost was only few dollars.

It's all.

- Szacsi from Hungary

Anonymous said...

Quarter million dollars? It's not true, I'm sure.

500 policeman x 3 hours work. 15,000 dollars, if they has $10/hour.

The big question: Are the nazis are the cause, the cities must to spend so much money for the security? The answer is simple: NO.

The insane counter-protesters are the violents, and they making trouble.

(Like now, 16 arrested peoples are was all anti-fascist communists.)

If there is no antifa, there is no trouble. If there is no trouble, then the city doesn't need to spend money for the security.
Think about it!

In my country 1000 (mostly skinheads) went to a remembrance rally, and because there are was NO red protesters, there was almost nothings security. All cost was only few dollars.

It's all.

- Szacsi from Hungary