Apr 19, 2006

On the Nazis and Their Trip to Lansing

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Left: Teargas filling up the intersection of Mulberry and Central in Toledo on October 15

(Toledo, OH) The traveling road show of the National Socialist Movement will slither into Lansing, MI this Saturday, hoping for a repeat of the violence they inspired in Toledo last October 15.

Lansing city officials, however, have consulted with counterparts in Toledo over the past few weeks in an effort to share tactics on preventing violence that sometimes accompanies the NSM and similar groups.

Despite the claims of spokesNazi Bill White that the NSM is a law-abiding, peaceful bunch of red-blooded patriots, the real goal of the group is based on their dreams of sparking race wars.

I watched White and Mark Martin successfully stir the crowd up on October 15 with racial epithets. I later read their gleeful comments about the "true nature of blacks" after the angry crowd rioted.

While the NSM claims after every event that they have achieved a "great victory," only the violence of October 15 in Toledo seems to be a touchstone for the group.

The city of Lansing appears to be following the blueprint of the second Toledo rally by creating separate zones for the protesters and the Nazis.

My prediction: The NSM will draw 45 supporters, while claiming that another 100 got turned away by police and that the Jews in the media photoshopped another 45 out of all photos (historymike, by the way, has been dubbed "HistoryKike" by the NSM, and is a card-carrying member of said Jewish conspiracy, even though he is Catholic).

The fact that April 20 is the birthday of Adolf Hitler - and one of their reasons for gathering - will mean little to the rest of the white supremacists, many of whom scoff at the swastika-wearing NSM as "Hollywood Nazis."

They will be opposed by a crowd of 600 antifa (White will say 150), and the Lansing police (augmented by droves of Michigan State Police) arrest everyone who sneezes within a radius of 200 yards of the event.

The Nazis will go home, claim another "great victory," and three dozen protesters will get locked up for the weekend. Yet another snoozer in the annals of modern American Fascism.

In fact, I think I will stay home this weekend and work on some historical research that has been waiting to be completed. I originally toyed with the idea of driving the 90 minutes or so to Lansing and watching the clowns try to start another riot, but with gas approaching $3.00 a gallon here, I can find better entertainment locally.

Maybe I'll plant some asparagus.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

No way, brother. Those NSM fools will only draw 30 racist clowns.

Stefan Schmidt said...

In fact, I think I will stay home this weekend and work on some historical research that has been waiting to be completed. I originally toyed with the idea of driving the 90 minutes or so to Lansing and watching the clowns try to start another riot, but with gas approaching $3.00 a gallon here, I can find better entertainment locally.--HM

I will be, in all likelihood, there. I doubt Lansing will erupt in a riot since there aren’t that many Blacks there as Toledo.

Oh, news is that gas may hit 5 or 6 a gallon—just thought you should know (Iran will probably stop shipments).

Stefan Schmidt said...

Oh, I almost forgot—I am glad that you are feeling better (I had bronchitis once, not a good feeling).

historymike said...

I doubt any cities will experience violence if they pay attention to the NSM, Stefan.

This is a double-edged sword for the group: by sparking violence last October, they have guaranteed that cities will watch their rallies closely and put out tons of police to clamp down on protesters as well as the NSM's ability to get protesters riled up.

Putting 80-100 yards between the Nazis and the protesters diminshes any ability the NSM has to provoke a violent outburst.

This is why they get all flustered about the security provisions.

And - I wouldn't be surprised about your gas predictions, Stefan.

historymike said...

Thanks also about the health wishes. I am at about 80% right now, but I still get winded easily.

Probably a good idea that I skip this one. I don't need to be huffing and puffing lugging around my laptop, camera, and accoutrements for three hours on Saturday.

Lisa Renee said...

Have I ever told you how much I love asparagus (hint...hint)

:-)

Nicholas said...
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Nicholas said...

Excuse me Schmidt, but what does "I doubt Lansing will erupt in a riot since there aren’t that many Blacks there as Toledo" mean? Blacks are people who riot? What crap! Most riots in US history have been committed by whites against minorities. Think before you type.

IsisDC said...

I know you don't want to hear from this Blogger.

But, the Nazis will have to do their own photography this weekend.

There is rumour of an IMF-World Bank protest in the streets of DC this weekend, I think, if not, there is a Gay youth pride event I can cover here just a metro ride away.

These Nazi rallies really are begining to look the same.

*YAWN*

Dariush said...

My understanding is that the reason the original nazis went for the brownshirts and military-style uniforms was precisely because the Weimar gov't had expressly banned all expressions of German militarism, including uniforms.

The NSDAP saw this as yet another humiliation foisted on the German nation by an outsider-imposed government. Hence they deliberately wore the uniforms to spit in the face of the gov't and its laws.

But I don't see how those uniforms have any relevance to the reality of 21st century America. At best, they make the NSM come off as a historical recreationist society, at worst... well, I hestitate to use the word "fetishists", especially due to the fact that Freudian psychobabble has been used to attack and discredit every political movement opposed to the status quo, since Bell and Hofstadter first declared war against "the paranoid style" in American politics.

historymike said...

Agreed, Dariush. Most people see the uniforms as a joke, or tht the people who wear them are disturbed.

The NSM fails to realize that, for most Americans, the swastika and other Nazi symbols still have negative associations.

Putting aside their genocidal or forced immigrationist views: can you imagine any serious political party adopting a more cumbersome set of baggage than the Nazis?

Talk about fighting an uphill PR battle...

Sarah said...

You know though, if any of them (NSM)have read their George Lincoln Rockwell, in some cases they wear the swastika for the same reason Rockwell did, to make those who oppose them upset and vulnerable.

We here in Olympia Wa are also the focus of NSM attention, they plan a rally on our state capitol steps this July, so we are watching what all happens in Lansing and elsewhere closely. Hope everyone stays safe.

Dariush said...

"You know though, if any of them (NSM)have read their George Lincoln Rockwell, in some cases they wear the swastika for the same reason Rockwell did, to make those who oppose them upset and vulnerable."

Rockwell knew what he was doing. Everything he did, every move he made was shrewd and calculated. He even wrote a "how-to" book on psywar, which is an excellent primer on the topic for all political agitators.

Uh, I was originally gonna post an unflattering comparison here between Rockwell and Schoep (and Rockwell's ANP and Schoep's NSM), but I decided against piling on.

On a related note I just found out, much to my dismay, that "Frank Joseph", editor-in-chief of an excellent magazine by the name of "Ancient American" (readily available at most Border's Books outlets), and author of numerous fine books on sacred sites, Atlantis, and other esoteric topics near and dear to my heart, is actually none other than Frank Collin -- the convicted pederast and Jewish ex-Fuhrer who organized the infamous march on Skokie in the 70's.

Honestly, I thought this guy was still rotting away in prison. How in the hell did he even survive in prison, much less emerge with an alt-literary career?

I mean, for cryin' out loud... a child molestor, a nazi and a Jew. How did he manage not to get shanked every single day?

Sarah said...

"Uh, I was originally gonna post an unflattering comparison here between Rockwell and Schoep (and Rockwell's ANP and Schoep's NSM), but I decided against piling on."

Please do write up a comparison, sounds fascinating. I've been reading about Rockwell in an attempt to understand the NSM better. Especially since according to the NSM I'm a commie "winch".

Stefan Schmidt said...

Blacks are people who riot?--nicholas

Yes, you seem to have already forgotten the Toledo riots.

What crap!--nicholas

Indeed.

Stefan Schmidt said...

Rockwell knew what he was doing. Everything he did, every move he made was shrewd and calculated--Dariush

He was conveniently assassinated by a ‘disgruntled’ member. It seems all the effective leaders in America befall the same fate.

-Sepp said...

Nicholas, are you for real? Blacks don't riot? Toledo, Los Angeles, Detroit, Newark, Watts just to scratch the surface. Try some research.

historymike said...

People of every color can act stupid when they think they can get away with it.

I watched white Tigers fans tear up Detroit in 1984 as bad or worse than anything I have witnessed.

In times of rioting, all bets are off. There were many people in the community trying to end the violence in Toledo on October 15, people like Mansour Bey, Oshea Crenshaw, and Ramon Perez.

I watched these people walk right into the riot zone and talk people out of the craziness.

However, once the booze and drugs get some idiots artificially fired up, no talking will get them back to sensibility.

The drunken white idiots I witnessed tearing up Detroit in 1984 were not much different than the ones I saw in Toledo in 2005.

The worst thing I saw: about thirty drunken white fools trying to tip over a DOT bus, which had a black driver and about three passengers. The driver was scared out of her mind, and these creeps thought it was funny.

Mr. Schwartz said...

All races riot. But in the United States...

black riots are rare and are usually based on political issues.

white riots are a lot more common, especially on college campuses. East Lansing Michigan has seen it's share of white college students rioting, based on alcohol or sports results.

Bill White failed his lame attempt to start a race riot in Cincinnati. He pulled the story from overthrow.com but I blogged about it

Here

White lied about a shooting of a black he claimed was done by a white nationalist. No doubt in order to stir up race riots again there. It turned out the person who did it was black and not a white supremacist. However, it shows what White will do to start trouble.

The good thing is, no one takes White seriously.

White pulled the story out of embarassment.

Hooda Thunkit said...

Mike,

"Maybe I'll plant some asparagus."

Asparagus is best planted in trenches lined with rotting manure.

Are you sure You don't want to go to Lansing? Just think of all of the manure the NSM will be spreading...

;-)

-Sepp said...

Asparagus...not a bad addition to my "to-do" list.

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Anonymous said...

The NSM went there to protest against the black violence and crime. The blacks started to be violent, smashed a gas station, and in a looting they stolen everything from the gas station.

The NSM doesn't need to comment this, the blacks shows they are violents and criminals.

- Szacsi