Apr 16, 2006

TPD to Upton United Methodist Church:"Tone It Down"

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(Toledo, OH) Toledo Police interupted a church service at the Upton United Methodist Church Wednesday night and ordered the congregation to lower the volume of their music. The officers notified the church that, after 9 pm, city laws kicked in.

A WTVG-13 video is here .

Full disclosure: I have met the Reverend Pat McKinstry on many occasions, and she is one of the most sincere, decent people I have ever met.

That being said, the idea that police would enter a church service and tell the members to quiet down is mind boggling. Dear TPD: do you think this might have waited until after the service?

Certainly the high volume of "boom" cars thudering through the Upton neighborhood could be a better place for police to focus their attention on noise pollution; I would certainly choose gospel music wafting through the neighborhood as opposed to loud rap or death metal from some idiot's car.

12 comments:

Newsguy said...

Amen to that last comment.

Petrograde said...

Somebody must have an axe to grind against that church. I can't believe a cop would be so stupid as to go in during a service. What an idiot.

Lloyd said...
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Lloyd said...

I like my comment so much from Toledo Talk, I had to paste it here:

Does anyone sense some racism here? Upton UMC seems to be largely an African American church in a mixed neighborhood. I bet the neighbors of Cedar Creek aren't complaining.

Don't Catholic Churches have bells that they ring early in the morning? What are we going to start complaining about next, church traffic?

I bet this is good free advertising for them. Seems like they have pretty lively services. I've been meaning to check them out for a while (I'm a self-proclaimed church connoisseur).

I also heard they are planning on moving anyways, does anyone know anything about this? Potentially in a couple of months, this cranky, racist 80 year old will have nothing to complain about. Perhaps he would be more satisfied to see a dilapidated building across the street.

-Sepp said...

Cedar creek doesen't have close neighbors lloyd. I kind of doubt there was racism involved on the part of the police or even the neighbors for that matter. The weather was nice and they probably had the doors open to let in some spring air. Some people work nights or afternoons and may have needed some sleep. I really wish that racism wasn't the first assumption all the time.

Hooda Thunkit said...

A sad situation all around...

Someone felt compelled to whine to a 911 operator, a dispatch is made, a police crew tactlessly responds, and everyone is upset.

Yet, there are no calls about those cars with their annoying thumpa thumpa sound systems aggrivating the neighbors and their fellow drivers who still do have their hearing.

Obviously some anti-religion/religous expression nut job...

In this world, some things are meant to be tolerated.

-sepp said...

The damn "thumpmobiles" are the worst. When I hear these kids bitching about not having enough money to take some college classes but, CAN afford to throw 2 grand into a sound system and another 3 g's into wheels, tires and, sparkly crap it blows my mind.

Peahippo said...

I must have missed that section in the law that specified that churches were excluded from local noise ordinances. Please quote that section.

Before any of you nutbags start squawking about "seperation of church and state", note that that doesn't mean that the state cannot regulate church activities. The state has EXPLICIT authority over any religious sect for all practical means. The manner of your worship is beyond the state's authority, but otherwise, you're going to have to obey the laws of your municipality or suffer the legal consequences.

Hooda Thunkit said...

-sepp,

You might want to try my idea for dealing with this.

I'm buying hearing aid company's stock.

Sure, I'm tolerating that crap now, but in the end. . .

:-)

Cwhodatiz said...

...here's a question...if those worshipping had not been people of color do you really think the a police officer would have walked in and interrupted service or would they have been more respectful and at least contacted the pastor or even pulled the pastor aside as not to have created a scene?

Here is another question...this particular church has been there for 10+ years...their "lively" worship has always been "lively"...what made things different this particular night?

Just some thought on the matter

Anonymous said...

Upton United Methodist Church, pastored by the Rev. Pat McKinstry, will move to Hill Avenue, east of Reynolds Road, and will be renamed Kingdom Worship United Methodist Church. The project will involve renovation of a church and building a 1,200-seat sanctuary at a cost of $3 million.

Anonymous said...

Upton United Methodist Church, pastored by the Rev. Pat McKinstry, will move to Hill Avenue, east of Reynolds Road, and will be renamed Kingdom Worship United Methodist Church. The project will involve renovation of a church and building a 1,200-seat sanctuary at a cost of $3 million.