Feb 25, 2008

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Medieval text with Latin script A frequent feature on this site; feel free to comment on the quote or to supply a competing quote.

It is possible to lead astray an entire generation, to strike it blind, to drive it insane, to direct it towards a false goal. Napoleon proved this.
-- Alexander Herzen

8 comments:

microdot said...

and history has most certainly repeated itself.

Anonymous said...

From Engineer of Knowledge

Hello History Mike,
I had a guest posting on Mud Rake’s site that complements your quote very well. We ourselves have a lost generation of “Young Turks” in this country that is very reflective of the “Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire” who committed genocide of the Armenian people. Within the ranks of this new lost generation of “Young Turks of America” come some people who will stalk and assonate OBGYN doctors and even threaten the doctors’ families because they disagree with the current laws of our country. Although claiming to be following Religious Right, Conservative Christian beliefs, they disregard or think themselves immune from “Thy shall not kill” commandment because God is on their side of this minor Genocide. Of course all of this is wrapped up in the “Religious Right, Conservative Christian” viewpoint blanket.

We also have a group of “Young Turks” touting religious conservative slogans going around the country protesting the funerals of fallen service men because they have been mislead to believe the God is punishing our armed services. Their reason is because we are not persecuting homosexuals enough in this country. The disrespect to the families of the sons and daughters killed in action, dishonoring a family for the closure of their loss. Brave men and woman who serve with honor are not allowed the proper respect for the sacrifice they have paid. Again, non-questioning marketed "Religious Right, Conservative Christian" viewpoint is at fault here.

We now have those who are saying that every Mexican in this country needs to be gathered up and those who can prove they are American citizens can stay but those who cannot are to be sent back to Mexico even if it means separating children that were born here but the parents are of Mexican birth. One could say that the U.S. Mexican immigrations are much like the Ottoman Empire’s old Armenian problems.

I would like to add a Voltaire quote who said, “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” The “Young Turks of America” justifying the assignation of doctors, persecution of human beings because they are homosexual, calls to gather up and put in holding camps for those who cannot prove they are American, all under the pretext of being good "Religious Right, Conservative Christian" people. I can only think how the “Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire” would be proud of this now lost generation of new “Young Turks of America” because both are willing to commit atrocities in the name of following their "Religious Right, Conservative Christian" Doctrines.

Noting the ignorance or apathy of history that called to exterminate the American Indians, Armenian Christians, European Jews, and now whatever the latest group of mankind these "Religious Right Christian Conservatives" target next; we are allowing the sins of the past to become again the sad world of atrocities.

The Screaming Nutcase said...

EOK: Assassination is what it's called when you kill someone important enough.

Methinks Blogger comment would benefit from a spell checker. :)

Anonymous said...

From Engineer of Knowledge

Hello Screaming Nut Case,
Thank you for pointing my mis-stating / spelling out to me. My Bad?!?! I knocked this out while trying to design electrical schematics to an electrical substation. If spell check recognizes it, I consider myself lucky even with that fact. (I do math well not spelling) I would take more time to proof read when time allows.

Thank you again.

Barb said...

Engineer (probably aka mudrake--same spirit)exhibits the same sort of bigotry (which he decries toward abortionists and homosexuals) toward religious right conservatives.

I've not heard lately about any abortion clinic/doctor bombers --it was a tiny tiny fraction of the pro-life movement that justified those tactics. Certainly not the whole group of religious conservatives.

There is only one kooky right wing group (Christian in name only) that I know about who harrasses at funerals of gays and soldiers or condones "gay bashing" per se.

The violent gay bashers like those who killed Matt Shephard are not even of the religious right --just guys coming from a bar who hate anybody out of the norm. They wouldn't like Christians any better than they liked Matt.

So you use hyperbole and a broad brush to tar the religious right with your examples.

Barb said...

For the Christians, here's a quotation for you by Jesus Christ in Matthew 5:11,12:

"Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.

12Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

Mike, your quote is almost true --in one generation, people can be led to commit godless cruelty -- like Hitler's Germany. I fear for the Bible-believing Christians of the future (the ones referred to by Engineer and Mudrake as bigots because of their fidelity to Biblical principle), that the spirit of anti-Christian bigotry exhibited here will affect the world --and they will be persecuted even in the U.S. as in China, Indonesia, Iran, and Communist USSR --and in Hitler's Germany. Corrie Ten Boom's story is an example.

Barb said...

PS--I say the quote is "almost" true --because it's never "an entire generation" if that means everybody. There are always some sane observers and victims.

mud_rake said...

Oh, she is more delusional than ever!